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Kimberle Crenshaw talks with #MuteRKelly co-founder Kenyette Barnes and Margo Okazawa-Rey

Kimberle Crenshaw talks with #MuteRKelly co-founder Kenyette Barnes and Margo Okazawa-Rey talks with Kimberle Crenshaw about her work at AAPF and on intersectionality

Two recent true-crime docu-series about the sexual abuse by well-known singers have rocked the mainstream world. HBO’s “Leaving Neverland” about Michael Jackson and Lifetime’s “Surviving R. Kelly” about  acclaimed  singer  and producer R Kelly are causing another round of contentious debate in this time of #Me Too. Despite the revelations and  decades-long public discussions  of the alleged abuses of these two popular cultural giants, the documentaries seem finally to be breaking through the denial of the last 25 years.  But even so, there is resistance to hold the two accountable. This is partly because of Jackson and Kelly’s beloved status and partly because of the country’s history of lynchings and incarceration of black men based on transgressions fabricated by white women. This history is further complicated by the fraught history of white feminists failing to include race and racism centrally in their analyses of sexual violence. Both factors complicate accusations against black men. So today I present the views of three black feminist women who have have been working to address the denial of abuse in the black community and who discuss how white supremacy and Misogynoir can help prevent the abuse of black women by black men from getting the attention it deserves. In the first half of the show we will hear clips from a new podcast called “Intersectionality Matters” by renowned feminist and legal scholar Kimberle Crenshaw who  talks with #MuteRKelly co-founder Kenyette Barnes about her movement to expose R Kelly’s serial abuse of Black women and girls.






And then in the second half of the show renowned scholar, activist, and author Margo Okazawa-Rey talks to legal scholar and activist Kimberlé Crenshaw about how to understand and address the complex problem of sexual abuse and related trauma in black communitie


Kimberlé Crenshaw, is professor of Law at UCLA and Columbia Law School, and is a leading authority in the area of Civil Rights, Black feminist legal theory, and race, racism and the law. Her work has been foundational in Critical Race Theory and Intersectionality. And she is the co-founder of the African American Policy Forum (AAPF),  a think tank that works to dismantle structural inequality. Margo Okazawa-Rey is Barbara Lee Distinguished Chair in Wmen’s Leadership and Professor of Race, Gender, and Sexuality Studies and of Public Policy at Mills College. She also is one of the  original members of the Combahee River Collective.


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