Jesse Green, New York Times theatre critic, discusses his book, “Shy: The Alarmingly Outspoken Memoirs of Mary Rodgers,” co-written by Mary Rodgers as well as some of his views and ideas about criticism, followed by a newly digitized and edited September 1987 Probabilities archive interview co-hosted by the late Richard A. Lupoff, with horror and fantasy author Clive Barker, discussing the nature of horror fiction, as well as his career as a writer and director (“Hellraiser”) to that point. Hosted by Richard Wolinsky.