Two artists who died on January 2, 2023. Suzy McKee Charnas (1939-2023) was a groundbreaking feminist author of science fiction and fantasy. In this interview early in her career, in 1981, she talks about her history as a writer and her engagement with feminist issues. Frank Galati (1943=2023) was a giant among theater directors, particularly in his home town, Chicago. He was in San Francisco in 2019 to discuss both his career and his then-current project, “Rhinoceros” by Eugene O’Neill, at ACT. Hosted by Richard Wolinsky.