Cartoonist and journalist Joe Sacco tells us what drove him to produce an epic illustration of one of World War I’s most senseless fights, the Battle of the Somme. Also, a new generation of student’s just graduated college but what did they get for their time and debt?

Guests: 

Joe Sacco, author of The Great War:July 1, 1916: The First Day of the Battle of the Somme

William Deresiewics, author of Excellent Sheep: The Miseducation of the American Elite and the Way to a Meaningful Life