In the first “Walking Back the Walk Back” with John Nichols, author of “Horsemen of the Trumpocalypse:
A Field Guide to the Most Dangerous People in America”
and Washington correspondent for The Nation. In the second hour “psychotic leadership syndrome” with Karen J. Greenberg author of “Rogue Justice: The Making of the Security State” and Director of the Center on National Security at Fordham University School of Law.