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The Future of Abolition: Mark Lamont Hill, Michelle Alexander and Vonya Quarles

“Prison Abolition” had been a widely discussed idea for centuries, and was adopted –even by centrists– in the 1970’s. —But during the last 40 years and a staggering boom in imprisonment  – prison abolition seemed like a fringe idea. “Get rid of prisons?!” Only radical activists thought that was possible. But in the last decade the tide has been turning: , we’ve had the work of Michelle Alexander and her book the New Jim Crow. We’ve seen people released from prison become advocates and lawyers, and change the terms of the discussion…people like Vonya Quarles. Even news personalities like Mark Lamont Hill now argue that abolition is a real and tangible goal. Today we hear from all three of these thinkers about the state of the prison movement, and the growing reality of abolition.



Michelle Alexander, Mark Lamont Hill, and Vonya Quarles

Host: Salima
Staff Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Monica Lopez,
Executive Director: Lisa Rudman
Audience Engagement Director: Sabine Blaizin

Music Credits:


Universildo – Camina;This one – No Time for Looking Back; Josh Spacek – Young, Tough and Terrible; Blue Dot Sessions – Boston Landing  

Image Credits:

Photo by Legal Services for Prisoner with Children

For more information:

Critical Resistance


All of Us or None

The New Jim Crow

Marc Lamont Hill

Transitional Housing for Homeless, Women with Children


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