Part 1: The Far Right Mob at the Capitol and Online
Guest: Talia Lavin is a journalist author of the book Culture Warlords: My Journey Into the Dark Web of White Supremacy.
Part 2 – The Future of National Security in the US
Guest: Karen Greenberg is the Director of the Center on National Security at Fordham University School of Law. She is the author of several books and the host of the podcast Vital Interests dedicated to issues of governance, law and policy.