0:08 — Anatol Lieven, Director of the Eurasia Program at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft
0:35 – Michael T. Klare, professor emeritus of Peace and World Security Studies at Hampshire College
0:08 — Anatol Lieven, Director of the Eurasia Program at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft
0:35 – Michael T. Klare, professor emeritus of Peace and World Security Studies at Hampshire College