Jaime Lowe on the women who fight fires while incarcerated; Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz on the idea of being a nation of immigrants

0:08 Journalist Jaime Lowe on her new book Breathing Fire: Female Inmate Firefighters on the Front Lines of California’s Wildfires 

1:08 Historian Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz on her latest, Not a Nation of Immigrants: Settler Colonialism, White Supremacy, and a History of Erasure and Exclusion