In the first hour “The Torturers Want to Protect Us” with Karen J. Greenberg, author of “Rogue Justice: The Making of the Security State” and Director of the Center on National Security at Fordham University School of Law. In the second hour “When the Director of the CDC Buys Tobacco Stocks, What More Can You Say?” with Dean Baker
co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research cepr.net.