This week, well continue our on-going coverage of the movement to abolish the carceral state, this time focusing not just on policing and prisons but also on the judicial system. My guest Ivette Al Ferlito leads an LA-based organization La Defensa and is on the frontlines of challenging judicial abuses and reimagining a world free of court exploitation. Then, YES! Magazine executive editor Evette Dionne will preview the Summer issue of YES! focusing on Thirst. Finally, well turn to acclaimed bestselling author and economist Nomi Prins to discuss her newest book, Permanent Distortion: How the Financial Markets Abandoned the Real Economy Forever.