Making Contact

Dividing Lines: What Are Borders and Why Do We Have Them? (encore)

What are borders, and why do we have them? And how is violent border enforcement at the U.S.-Mexico border connected to Israel’s brutal assault on Gaza? And what happens when borders cross living land and communities?

We’ll dig into these questions in this week’s episode with the help of Heba Gowayed, sociology professor at CUNY Hunter College and Graduate Center. And then we’ll hear a story brought to us by In Confianza, with Pulso about one time when the natural boundary between two countries changed,  and what happened to the people caught on the other side.

GUESTS:

  • Heba Gowayed, sociology professor at CUNY Hunter College and Graduate Center and author of Refuge: How the State Shapes Human Potential and the forthcoming The Cost of Border.
  • Charlie Garcia, writer and producer of the story “The Border is Alive!,” from In Confianza, with Pulso.