Law & Disorder

The FBI’s Double Agent and Role in the Plot to Kidnap MI Gov. Gretchen Whitmer; SF Election Results; Plus, Plus, Resistance in Residence Artist AeJay Mitchell

On today’s show, we discuss the extent to which FBI informants and agents were central in instigating the plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer.

Trevor Aaronson is a journalist and the author of The Terror Factory: Inside the FBI’s Manufactured War on Terrorism. He is also a contributing writer for The Intercept and the host of a podcast called Alphabet Boys – which reveals secret investigations of the FBI, DEA, ATF, and other agencies, and includes secret undercover recordings that the government never wanted the public to hear. Eric VanDussen is a Michigan-based journalist and videographer, and contributor to The Intercept. He’s covered the Governor Whitmer kidnapping plot and subsequent prosecutions closely for the last 3 years, including lawsuits under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) to bring the details about the case and FBI operations into the public spotlight. 

They join us to discuss their latest investigations for The Intercept, “The FBI’s Double Informant” detailing how the FBI informant and operations at the heart of the plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer in 2020. 

Then, what do the passage of ballot measures Prop E and Prop F mean for the poor people of San Francisco?

We speak with Tim Redmond, editor of 48 Hills. Then, Kevin Benedicto is a civil litigator and civil rights attorney with Morgan Lewis, and a member of the San Francisco Police Commission, appointed by the SF Board of Supervisors in 2022, on how the measure weakens oversight efforts. And, we speak with Laura Guzman is the executive director of the National Harm Reduction Coalition.

This week’s Resistance in Residence Artist multi-hyphenated performance artist, scholar, educator and activist, AeJay Mitchell.

Tonight! Our own producer, Jesse Strauss is celebrating a brand new album release with Artelia Green and the Bandanas with a concert this evening at the Guild Theater in Menlo Park. Find out more and buy tickets at

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