Guest: David Quammen, science journalist, on zoonotic diseases, those like COVID-19 that leap from animals to humans. His latest book is Spillover: Animal Infections and the Next Human Pandemic.
Then, Samuel Moyn, a professor of law and history at Yale, on all the things that are wrong with the Supreme Court.
Both interviews were broadcast on earlier shows: Quammen in March 2020 and Moyn in October 2018.