What 
does it take to make human beings willing to actually kill each other?
And what might it take to make peace? We speak to longtime peace and conflict scholar Marc Pilisuk. But first: the state legislature is barreling toward the end of a session with several high-stakes climate change bills hanging still pending. Oil and environmental lobbies directing massive campaigns at a handful of Democratic legislators considered swing votes on environmental bills. We walk you though what’s in play, and who the players are.
Guests:
- Melanie Mason, capitol reporter for Los Angeles Times
- Marc Pilisuk, professor at Saybrook University; professor Emeritus of Human and Community Development at the University of California at Davis, former president of the Society for the Study of Peace, Coonflict, and Violence, and co-author of The Hidden Structure of Violence: Who Benefits from Global Violence and War